<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
	xmlns:itunes="http://www.itunes.com/dtds/podcast-1.0.dtd"
	>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: First day of lessons from NYWC</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.studentministry.org/first-day-of-lessons-from-nywc/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.studentministry.org/first-day-of-lessons-from-nywc/</link>
	<description>Conversations among those passionate for teenagers.</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:15:46 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1</generator>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
		<item>
		<title>By: Vintage Faith:</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/first-day-of-lessons-from-nywc/comment-page-1/#comment-99043</link>
		<dc:creator>Vintage Faith:</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:47:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://208.101.63.97/?p=92#comment-99043</guid>
		<description>&lt;!--%kramer-ref-pre%--&gt;[...] - I was surprised in one seminar I did where I unexpectedly got very nervous when speaking. It was one which raised the criticism and questions people in their twenties are having about church and Christianity. I was talking about some rather sensitive issues about how we must be understanding not only the world youth live in today - but what they face when they leave home and go to college. I was talking about the strange Christian sub-culture we have created with all the Christian music, Christian T-shirts etc. and I suddenly realized that I was in the heart of Christian music and a zillion churches here in Nashville. I didn&#039;t know how people would respond as I spoke about how people outside the church see us in regards to our attitudes about homosexuality, how we are seen as being an organized religion, how we are known to bring politics into religion and how during the youth years we lay out examples in our attitudes and what we teach them. I was challenging people to see if they have created or exist in a Christian sub-culture and thus lose effectiveness on the mission Jesus sent us on. But, I had more positive feedback from people afterwards than normal throughout the time here, so it may be a topic needed to be talked about more. So I was encouraged after being somewhat nervous. Here is a blogger talking about his experience of that seminar.  [...]&lt;!--%kramer-ref-post%--&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://dev.wp-plugins.org/wiki/Kramer"><img src="http://www.studentministry.org/wp-content/plugins/kramer.php?kramer=gif-icon" class="technorati-balloon" alt="Kramer auto Pingback" style="border:0;" /></a>[...] &#8211; I was surprised in one seminar I did where I unexpectedly got very nervous when speaking. It was one which raised the criticism and questions people in their twenties are having about church and Christianity. I was talking about some rather sensitive issues about how we must be understanding not only the world youth live in today &#8211; but what they face when they leave home and go to college. I was talking about the strange Christian sub-culture we have created with all the Christian music, Christian T-shirts etc. and I suddenly realized that I was in the heart of Christian music and a zillion churches here in Nashville. I didn&#8217;t know how people would respond as I spoke about how people outside the church see us in regards to our attitudes about homosexuality, how we are seen as being an organized religion, how we are known to bring politics into religion and how during the youth years we lay out examples in our attitudes and what we teach them. I was challenging people to see if they have created or exist in a Christian sub-culture and thus lose effectiveness on the mission Jesus sent us on. But, I had more positive feedback from people afterwards than normal throughout the time here, so it may be a topic needed to be talked about more. So I was encouraged after being somewhat nervous. Here is a blogger talking about his experience of that seminar.  [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Danny</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/first-day-of-lessons-from-nywc/comment-page-1/#comment-72303</link>
		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Mar 2008 05:00:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://208.101.63.97/?p=92#comment-72303</guid>
		<description>R Jolly is trying to slander a good man.  Frank Harber has been viciously attacked and slandered by a disgruntled group trying to take over FBC Colleyville.  Localnewsonly.com has printed many false things about a great pastor.  Just read the articles and see how mean, unloving and spiteful they are about Frank. It is pure meanness and character assassination.  I go to Frank Harber&#039;s new church and it is great.  I have learned how to be a great Christian and defender of the faith under him. His books are of great value.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R Jolly is trying to slander a good man.  Frank Harber has been viciously attacked and slandered by a disgruntled group trying to take over FBC Colleyville.  Localnewsonly.com has printed many false things about a great pastor.  Just read the articles and see how mean, unloving and spiteful they are about Frank. It is pure meanness and character assassination.  I go to Frank Harber&#8217;s new church and it is great.  I have learned how to be a great Christian and defender of the faith under him. His books are of great value.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: R. Jolley</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/first-day-of-lessons-from-nywc/comment-page-1/#comment-401</link>
		<dc:creator>R. Jolley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Aug 2006 11:51:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://208.101.63.97/?p=92#comment-401</guid>
		<description>Please reconsider promoting anything written by Frank Harber.  He and the church are involved in a serious scandal and are bringing great harm to the ministry of God.

See the Web site at http://www.localnewsonly.com/01NewLNO/frontpage.htm for a great number of details surrounding this man.

R. Jolley</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please reconsider promoting anything written by Frank Harber.  He and the church are involved in a serious scandal and are bringing great harm to the ministry of God.</p>
<p>See the Web site at <a href="http://www.localnewsonly.com/01NewLNO/frontpage.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.localnewsonly.com/01NewLNO/frontpage.htm</a> for a great number of details surrounding this man.</p>
<p>R. Jolley</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Jen Lenhart</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/first-day-of-lessons-from-nywc/comment-page-1/#comment-400</link>
		<dc:creator>Jen Lenhart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Dec 2005 18:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://208.101.63.97/?p=92#comment-400</guid>
		<description>Hi Tim,
I came across your website, and was interested in reading your thoughts on things.  I too, was at NYWC in Nashville.  I was struck by the things you wrote on in this particular article.  It&#039;s so true that we need to be teaching our students how to defend their faith, and to figure out WHY they believe what they believe.  I think we all need to do that as believers.  Doug Fields&#039; message was one of 2 that struck me the hardest at the conference.  I think SAtan does such a good job at keeping us busy, even if it is with good &amp; profitable things, and it takes our eyes off the Author &amp; Perfector of our faith.

Thanks for sharing!
In Christ,
Jen Lenhart
Windsor, Ontario, Canada</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Tim,<br />
I came across your website, and was interested in reading your thoughts on things.  I too, was at NYWC in Nashville.  I was struck by the things you wrote on in this particular article.  It&#8217;s so true that we need to be teaching our students how to defend their faith, and to figure out WHY they believe what they believe.  I think we all need to do that as believers.  Doug Fields&#8217; message was one of 2 that struck me the hardest at the conference.  I think SAtan does such a good job at keeping us busy, even if it is with good &amp; profitable things, and it takes our eyes off the Author &amp; Perfector of our faith.</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing!<br />
In Christ,<br />
Jen Lenhart<br />
Windsor, Ontario, Canada</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Life in student ministry &#187; Preparing for Da Vinci Code</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/first-day-of-lessons-from-nywc/comment-page-1/#comment-399</link>
		<dc:creator>Life in student ministry &#187; Preparing for Da Vinci Code</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2005 18:02:03 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://208.101.63.97/?p=92#comment-399</guid>
		<description>[...] A couple weeks ago I posted about how I need to address the tough issues in youth group that students will face once they graduate. Based on Dan Kimball&#8217;s seminar at the NYWC, I decided that I need to start teaching WHY we believe what we do and present other options for them to critically evaluate. It&#8217;s okay to teach on prayer, reading the Bible, witnessing to friends, and other such topics, but maybe at this point in their lives there&#8217;s something else that&#8217;s even more critical than this. Youth group needs to be a safe place where students feel comfortable with challenging our (their?) belief system and taking ownership of it themselves. If Christianity doesn&#8217;t hold water, then it&#8217;s really not worth believing. Students need to know that not only does Christianity stand up to criticism, it actually provides solid answers that no other religion or philosophy can provide. But obviously, this is a decision they need to make for themselves. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A couple weeks ago I posted about how I need to address the tough issues in youth group that students will face once they graduate. Based on Dan Kimball&#8217;s seminar at the NYWC, I decided that I need to start teaching WHY we believe what we do and present other options for them to critically evaluate. It&#8217;s okay to teach on prayer, reading the Bible, witnessing to friends, and other such topics, but maybe at this point in their lives there&#8217;s something else that&#8217;s even more critical than this. Youth group needs to be a safe place where students feel comfortable with challenging our (their?) belief system and taking ownership of it themselves. If Christianity doesn&#8217;t hold water, then it&#8217;s really not worth believing. Students need to know that not only does Christianity stand up to criticism, it actually provides solid answers that no other religion or philosophy can provide. But obviously, this is a decision they need to make for themselves. [...]</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/first-day-of-lessons-from-nywc/comment-page-1/#comment-398</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://208.101.63.97/?p=92#comment-398</guid>
		<description>Thanks for the recommendations! I&#039;ll check &#039;em out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the recommendations! I&#8217;ll check &#8216;em out.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Gary Davis</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/first-day-of-lessons-from-nywc/comment-page-1/#comment-397</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:34:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://208.101.63.97/?p=92#comment-397</guid>
		<description>Hey there,   You don&#039;t know me, but I came by your blog becuase of a posting in Dan Kimball&#039;s site.  I read your comments on his class and thought I might recommend another couple of books for you to check out.  One is called &quot;Why Should Anyone Believe Anything At All&quot; by James W. Sire, and the other one is called &quot;Naming The Elephant:  WorldView as Concept&quot; also by Sire.  Enjoy!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there,   You don&#8217;t know me, but I came by your blog becuase of a posting in Dan Kimball&#8217;s site.  I read your comments on his class and thought I might recommend another couple of books for you to check out.  One is called &#8220;Why Should Anyone Believe Anything At All&#8221; by James W. Sire, and the other one is called &#8220;Naming The Elephant:  WorldView as Concept&#8221; also by Sire.  Enjoy!!!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Dad</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/first-day-of-lessons-from-nywc/comment-page-1/#comment-396</link>
		<dc:creator>Dad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 11:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://208.101.63.97/?p=92#comment-396</guid>
		<description>I enjoy reading about this Tim.  It&#039;s very insightful and helpful to me.  I&#039;ve been praying for you often these days with all this going on.  I do a lot of teaching about how we know there is a God, the Bible is God&#039;s Word and Jesus is God in World View and with new believers.  I have handouts &amp; PP on it if you are ever interested.  The handouts are on my web site, too.  It&#039;s important stuff, the basis of why they believe in absolutes and that Jesus is the only way.  Love,  Dad</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoy reading about this Tim.  It&#8217;s very insightful and helpful to me.  I&#8217;ve been praying for you often these days with all this going on.  I do a lot of teaching about how we know there is a God, the Bible is God&#8217;s Word and Jesus is God in World View and with new believers.  I have handouts &amp; PP on it if you are ever interested.  The handouts are on my web site, too.  It&#8217;s important stuff, the basis of why they believe in absolutes and that Jesus is the only way.  Love,  Dad</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
