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	<title>Comments on: Tips for starting out in vocational youth ministry</title>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/tips-for-starting-out-in-vocational-youth-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-56297</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 05:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice post, and I particularly echo #7.  I&#039;ve known pastors and youth pastors who felt the need to come in and start making changes right away -- big changes that ended up in them losing their postion before 6 months was up.  There is great wisdom in picking your battles your first year or two at the church -- make changes that are really necessary to the health of the ministry, but otherwise follow the maxim: Year One: Learn them, Year two: Love them, Year Three: Lead them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice post, and I particularly echo #7.  I&#8217;ve known pastors and youth pastors who felt the need to come in and start making changes right away &#8212; big changes that ended up in them losing their postion before 6 months was up.  There is great wisdom in picking your battles your first year or two at the church &#8212; make changes that are really necessary to the health of the ministry, but otherwise follow the maxim: Year One: Learn them, Year two: Love them, Year Three: Lead them.</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/tips-for-starting-out-in-vocational-youth-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-54650</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Jan 2008 11:48:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Being me I vote for number 6! Who needs an office anyway? </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Being me I vote for number 6! Who needs an office anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/tips-for-starting-out-in-vocational-youth-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-54374</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 17:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Tim, 

This is my 4th year in ministry and I still feel like a total rookie. Any words of wisdom on how to become a lifer of youth ministry? Not just for the short beginnings but how to create a ministry that sustains you as well as the students? 

Thoughts, ponderings or complete and utter ramblings... any insight will help! Thank you for providing us with your wisdom!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Tim, </p>
<p>This is my 4th year in ministry and I still feel like a total rookie. Any words of wisdom on how to become a lifer of youth ministry? Not just for the short beginnings but how to create a ministry that sustains you as well as the students? </p>
<p>Thoughts, ponderings or complete and utter ramblings&#8230; any insight will help! Thank you for providing us with your wisdom!</p>
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		<title>By: A Shore Thing</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/tips-for-starting-out-in-vocational-youth-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-54298</link>
		<dc:creator>A Shore Thing</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jan 2008 01:01:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Starting Out in Youth&#160;Ministry...&lt;/strong&gt;

Over at Life in Student Ministry Tim has written a post featuring 10 tips for starting out in Youth Ministry. As it turns out, I will be speaking in PBU&#8217;s Youth Ministry chapel this month on a similar topic: &#8220;Things I have Learned since PBU...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Starting Out in Youth&nbsp;Ministry&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Over at Life in Student Ministry Tim has written a post featuring 10 tips for starting out in Youth Ministry. As it turns out, I will be speaking in PBU&#8217;s Youth Ministry chapel this month on a similar topic: &#8220;Things I have Learned since PBU&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Graham</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/tips-for-starting-out-in-vocational-youth-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-54272</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff Graham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 22:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In addition on #1 I&#039;d add that it&#039;s important to stay focused on the area(s) you were hired for. Everyone has a job for you to do. Shortly after I arrived at my church someone informed me that there were no paper towels in the Men&#039;s bathroom. Luckily I didn&#039;t know where the paper towels were stored (otherwise I would have changed them myself). Instead I directed them to one of our janitors. You have to be able to focus on the job of caring for students.

-Jeff-</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In addition on #1 I&#8217;d add that it&#8217;s important to stay focused on the area(s) you were hired for. Everyone has a job for you to do. Shortly after I arrived at my church someone informed me that there were no paper towels in the Men&#8217;s bathroom. Luckily I didn&#8217;t know where the paper towels were stored (otherwise I would have changed them myself). Instead I directed them to one of our janitors. You have to be able to focus on the job of caring for students.</p>
<p>-Jeff-</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Roberts</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/tips-for-starting-out-in-vocational-youth-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-54256</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Roberts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These are great for everyone, not just rookies.  I&#039;ve been in youth ministry for about 6 or 7 years now and those are all things I&#039;m trying to do on a regular basis.

Also, I&#039;d totally back you up on #8.  It&#039;s so easy to start doing the ministry for your honor and glory, when it should all be going to Him.  Learned this one the hard way several times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These are great for everyone, not just rookies.  I&#8217;ve been in youth ministry for about 6 or 7 years now and those are all things I&#8217;m trying to do on a regular basis.</p>
<p>Also, I&#8217;d totally back you up on #8.  It&#8217;s so easy to start doing the ministry for your honor and glory, when it should all be going to Him.  Learned this one the hard way several times.</p>
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		<title>By: GiGi</title>
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		<dc:creator>GiGi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:42:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh!  And my awesome leaders of course!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh!  And my awesome leaders of course!</p>
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		<title>By: GiGi</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/tips-for-starting-out-in-vocational-youth-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-54248</link>
		<dc:creator>GiGi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 19:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ooooh!  I want a mentor!  Er, I NEED a mentor!  Great idea!  Pray for me this week y&#039;all (North Carolina, cut me some slack), I&#039;m taking our kids on a Winter Weekend next Friday.  Three nights, me, and teenagers.  Phew!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ooooh!  I want a mentor!  Er, I NEED a mentor!  Great idea!  Pray for me this week y&#8217;all (North Carolina, cut me some slack), I&#8217;m taking our kids on a Winter Weekend next Friday.  Three nights, me, and teenagers.  Phew!</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Blanchard</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/tips-for-starting-out-in-vocational-youth-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-54214</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Blanchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would agree with that because sometimes those influentials may not be operating out of the spirit of God. You will always battles that you must be willing to die on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would agree with that because sometimes those influentials may not be operating out of the spirit of God. You will always battles that you must be willing to die on.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Schmoyer</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/tips-for-starting-out-in-vocational-youth-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-54210</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim Schmoyer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I think that&#039;s okay, Steve, as long as it doesn&#039;t become favoritism, sucking up or unintentionally labeling them as &quot;more important.&quot; You&#039;ll still have to make the hard decisions to do what&#039;s right for the ministry whether those influential people agree or not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I think that&#8217;s okay, Steve, as long as it doesn&#8217;t become favoritism, sucking up or unintentionally labeling them as &#8220;more important.&#8221; You&#8217;ll still have to make the hard decisions to do what&#8217;s right for the ministry whether those influential people agree or not.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Blanchard</title>
		<link>http://www.studentministry.org/tips-for-starting-out-in-vocational-youth-ministry/comment-page-1/#comment-54207</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Blanchard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tim, it doesn&#039;t really seem like you know what you&#039;re talking about - JJ luv your stuff dude!

I would also like to add to #2.

Figure out who the influencials are in your specific ministry and in the church itself and do what it takes to create trust. This will go a long way and give you stability when others take a stab at you.

I had a pastor once say, &quot;every church has a church boss&quot;. This is the person or people in the church that are very influential and have the power to defend your ministry or hurt your ministry. 

Win these people over.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim, it doesn&#8217;t really seem like you know what you&#8217;re talking about &#8211; JJ luv your stuff dude!</p>
<p>I would also like to add to #2.</p>
<p>Figure out who the influencials are in your specific ministry and in the church itself and do what it takes to create trust. This will go a long way and give you stability when others take a stab at you.</p>
<p>I had a pastor once say, &#8220;every church has a church boss&#8221;. This is the person or people in the church that are very influential and have the power to defend your ministry or hurt your ministry. </p>
<p>Win these people over.</p>
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